Showing posts with label Strikeouts (Batting). Show all posts
Showing posts with label Strikeouts (Batting). Show all posts

Friday, October 9, 2009

Three True Outcomes Per Plate Appearance, 1913-2009

An update to my Three True Outcomes (TTO) posts of January 2008 and July 2009. This version is complete through 2009. Once again, I have expanded the board by five more places.

Most Career TTO/PA, 1913-2009, min. 3000 PA

RankNamePASOBBHRTTO/PA
1
Adam Dunn
5417
1433
913
316
.4914
2
Rob Deer45121409575230.4907
3
Ryan Howard
3145
878
406
222
.4789
4
Jim Thome94632313
1619
564
.4751
5
Mark McGwire766015961317583.4564
6
Carlos Pena
3713
973
495
202
.4498
7
Mickey Tettleton57451307949245.4353
8
Pat Burrell5864
1392
842
265
.4262
9
Jay Buhner59271406792310.4231
10
Gorman Thomas54861339697268.4200
11
Brad Wilkerson
3753
947
492
122
.4159
12Danny Tartabull58421362768262.4094
13Don Lock3116776373122.4079
14Jose Canseco81291942906462.4072
15
Troy Glaus
5872
1277
791
304
.4040
16
Jason Bay
3897
896
491
185
.4034
17Mickey Mantle990917101733536.4016
18Reggie Jackson1141625971375563.3972
19
Nick Swisher
3119
665
439
133
.3966
20
Darryl Strawberry63261352816335.3957
21
Gene Tenace5525998984201.3951
22
Pete Incaviglia46771277360206.3941
23
Richie Sexson
5604
1313
588
306
.3938
24
Eric Davis61471398740282.3937
25Jim Edmonds73071669974382
.3924
T-26
Cecil Fielder
5939
1316
693
319
.3920
T-26
Ray Lankford
6674
1550
828
238
.3920
28
Mike Schmidt
10062
1883
1507
548
.3914
29
Harmon Killebrew
9831
1699
1559
573
.3897
T-30
Sammy Sosa
9896
2306
929
609
.3884
T-30
Mike Cameron
7435
1798
825
265
.3884

If you carry it out beyond four decimal places the ties go away but, hey, I wanted an excuse to include another active player.

Russell Branyan is poised to jump atop the table with 176 more plate apperances. Through 2824 career PA, he has 946 strikeouts, 339 walks, and 164 home runs, good for a .5131 TTO/PA. If you add the necessary 176 TTO-less PA to get to 3000, he still places third with .4830. Not bad. Bo Jackson, of all people, pops up between Pete Incaviglia and Richie Sexson by the same method.

Another player who should make his way into the table next year is Brad Hawpe. He sits at .3983 after 2807 career plate appearances. If Tony Clark signs on somewhere next season, he might work his way back onto the list. He's currently 32nd at .3881.

Sunday, September 6, 2009

SO > TB, Minimum 200 AB

This post details one of my personal favorite "teams." It's weird, comparing strikeouts to total bases, but whatever. I guess it springs out of the generalization that strikeouts are okay if you trade them for power. These players just couldn't break even.

The full list since 1901 can be found by following the above link. Andruw Jones and Tony Pena Jr. were new additions last season. The following players have a chance to join them in 2009:

Chris Davis, 128 K, 126 TB, 303 AB
Bill Hall, 95 K, 94 TB, 270 AB
Kelly Shoppach, 90 K, 91 TB, 235 AB
Koyie Hill, 67 K, 71 TB, 212 AB
Jeff Mathis, 64 K, 64 K, 198 AB

Jeff Mathis had as many strikeouts as total bases in 2008 as well. At least he's consistent.

Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Three True Outcomes per Plate Appearance, 1913-2008

An update to my Three True Outcomes (TTO) post of January 2008. As mentioned there, batting strikeouts weren't consistently recorded until 1913, so I start counting TTO from there.

Most Career TTO/PA, 1913-2007, min. 3000 PA

RankNamePASOBBHRTTO/PA
1
Adam Dunn
4749
1256
797
278
.4908
2
Rob Deer45121409575230.4907
3Jim Thome90292190
1550
541
.4741
4Mark McGwire766015961317583.4564
5
Carlos Pena
3143
810
408
163
.4394
6
Mickey Tettleton57451307949245.4353
7
Pat Burrell5388
1273785
251
.4285
8
Jay Buhner59271406792310.4231
9Gorman Thomas54861339697268.4200
10
Brad Wilkerson
3753
947
492
122
.4159
11Danny Tartabull58421362768262.4094
12Don Lock3116776373122.4079
13Jose Canseco81291942906462.4072
14
Troy Glaus
5840
1269
788
304
.4043
15Mickey Mantle990917101733536.4016
16Reggie Jackson1141625971375563.3972
17Darryl Strawberry63261352816335.3957
18Gene Tenace5525998984201.3951
19Pete Incaviglia46771277360206.3941
20
Richie Sexson
5604
1313
588
306
.3938
21
Eric Davis61471398740282.3937
22
Jason Bay
3259
734
397
149
.3928
23Jim Edmonds73071669974382
.3924
24
Cecil Fielder
5939
1316
693
319
.3920
25
Ray Lankford
6674
1550
828
238
.3920

Adam Dunn finally edged Rob Deer out of the top spot.

I expanded the board to the top 25 for this post. Carlos Pena joined the top 20 this year, as did Richie Sexson. Eric Davis and Jim Edmonds fell out of the top 25, but stay in the top 25 with a new addition between them. Reggie Jackson remains the only member of the club with 10000 PA, though Jim Thome is getting close. Mike Schmidt narrowly missed joining him with his .3914 TTO/PA in 10062 PA.

In case you were wondering, the lowest career TTO% table didn't change. Here is a simple list of the bottom ten active players, minimum 3000 PA:
  • Juan Pierre, .1128
  • Placido Polanco, .1316
  • Cesar Izturis, .1424
  • David Eckstein, .1462
  • Paul Lo Duca, .1490
  • Bengie Molina, .1561
  • Ichiro Suzuki, .1651
  • Jason Kendall, .1684
  • Orlando Cabrera, .1687
  • Miguel Cairo, .1690

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

SO > TB, Minimum 200 AB

My first real post on this blog had to do with one of my favorite topics: guys with more strikeouts than total bases. Since I never posted a follow-up with 2007 and 2008 players added, I figured now was a good time. The 2009 season is about one-quarter over, so it's also easy to look at guys who might join the list.

First up, the updated list of players with more strikeouts than total bases in 200 or more at bats:

NameYearTeamPositionABAVGOBPSLGTBSOOPS+
Bill Bergen1911BROC227.132.183.1543542-4
Billy Consolo1954BOSSS242.227.324.277676959
Billy Consolo1959BOS
WSH
SS216.213.331.269585967
Ernie Fazio1963HOU2B228.184.273.281647065
Jerry Kindall1963CLE2B234.205.266.295697158
Dave Nicholson1964CHWLF294.204.329.36510712696
Chris Cannizzaro1965NYMC251.183.270.231586046
Don Zimmer1965WSAC226.199.284.252575955
Ray Oyler1966DETSS210.171.263.252536248
Jerry Zimmerman1967MINC234.167.243.192454926
Ray Oyler1968DETSS215.135.213.186405920
George Scott1968BOS1B350.171.236.237838840
Dick Tracewski1968DETSS212.156.239.236505143
Al Weis1968NYMSS274.172.234.204566332
Darrel Chaney1969CINSS209.191.278.234497542
Ray Oyler1969SEPSS255.165.260.267688049
Jim Mason1975NYYSS223.152.228.211474927
John Hale1978SEARF211.171.283.265566456
Leroy Stanton1978SEALF302.182.265.248758047
Bobby Bonds1980STLLF231.203.305.316737472
Tom Donohue1980CALC218.188.216.243536327
Reggie Jackson1983CALRF397.194.290.34013514074
Gary Pettis1987CALCF394.208.302.25910212453
Jody Davis1989ATLC231.169.246.242566139
John Shelby1989LADCF345.183.237.229799236
Jeff Kunkel1990TEXSS200.170.221.280566640
Rob Deer1991DETRF448.179.314.38617317592
Hensley Meulens1991NYYLF288.222.276.319929765
Gary Pettis1991TEXCF282.216.341.277789175
Andujar Cedeno1992HOUSS220.173.232.277617147
Jack Clark1992BOSDH257.210.350.311808782
Billy Ashley1995LADLF215.237.320.372808890
Benji Gil1995TEXSS415.219.266.34714414760
Kimera Bartee1996DETCF217.253.308.304667757
Archi Cianfrocco1997SDP1B220.245.328.355788085
Mark Johnson1997PIT1B219.215.345.315697873
Ryan McGuire1998MON1B210.186.292.243515546
Greg Vaughn2002TBDLF251.163.286.315798260
Mark Bellhorn2005BOS
NYY
2B300.210.324.35710711281
Mark Bellhorn2006SDP3B253.190.285.344879066
Ryan Langerhans2007ATL
OAK
WSN
CF210.167.272.305648153
Andruw Jones2008LADCF209.158.256.249527634
Tony Pena2008KCRSS225.169.189.20947497

Angels catcher Jeff Mathis came close to joining in 2008. Fortunately for him, two singles in his last two at-bats of the campaign gave him 90 total bases to go with his 90 strikeouts in 283 at bats.

As I said, the 2009 season is roughly 25% over. Here are the players with more strikeouts than total bases in 50 or more AB so far:
  • Brent Lillibridge, CHW - 68 AB, 13 TB, 21 SO
  • Edwin Encarnacion, CIN - 63 AB, 12 TB, 19 SO
  • Jordan Schafer, ATL - 125 AB, 40 TB, 46 SO
  • B.J. Upton, TBR - 136 AB, 38 TB, 43 SO
  • Cameron Maybin, FLA - 84 AB, 26 TB, 31 SO
  • Josh Fields, CHW - 129 AB, 40 TB, 43 SO
  • Travis Ishikawa, SFG - 89 AB, 26 TB, 28 SO
  • Ramon Vazquez, PIT - 59 AB, 13 TB, 15 SO
  • Jeff Mathis, LAA - 58 AB, 16 TB, 18 SO
  • Kelly Shoppach, CLE - 66 AB, 26 TB, 27 SO
  • Rob Johnson, SEA - 63 AB, 18 TB, 19 SO

Sunday, February 8, 2009

More Strikeouts Than Times on Base

In a comment on my post of last Sunday, Mitchell Marshall suggested I look at players whose career strikeout percentage was greater than their career on base percentage. It's an interesting idea and I wish it didn't take me a week to get to it, but so it goes. I'm sure most readers are aware of the formula for on base percentage:



Thanks Wikipedia. The numerator of that fraction is sometimes shortened to times on base (TOB). There's other ways to reach base (errors, fielder's choice, etc.), but the three used in calculating OBP are the most common. So in order to compare strikeouts to on base percentage, I think it would be simplest to compare strikeouts to times on base. Thus in this post strikeout percentage is that same fraction but with only strikeouts in the numerator.

Tossing out pitchers, twenty-one players had 20 or more strikeouts than times on base in their careers. Most of them had a single season's worth or fewer plate appearances. Obviously, they all struggled to get on base: the highest OBP on the list is .328. Only five hitters were over .300.

Players With 20+ More Strikeouts Than Times on Base in Career

NameCareerPASOTOBSO-TOBSO%OBP
Tom Egan1965-1975108433628551.313.266
Jim Fuller1973-19773411308446.385.249
J.R. Phillips1993-199954518013446.331.247
Melvin Nieves1992-1998139248343746.347.314
Dave Nicholson1960-1967166157352746.346.318
Russell Branyan1998-2008231979775938.344.328
Chad Hermansen1999-200454116813632.315.255
Ed Gastfield1884-18859037829.411.089
Brad Eldred2005-2007255936429.365.251
Bo Jackson1986-1994262684181229.321.309
Jared Sandberg2001-200370623620828.337.297
Cliff Cook1959-196343513610927.317.254
Billy Ashley1992-199868823621125.343.307
Kevin Cash2002-200855716113724.292.248
Mike Hubbard1995-2001198603723.303.187
Jason Smith2001-200859117215022.297.259
Frank Cox1884104361521.346.144
Paul Ratliff1963-19723361199821.355.293
Phil Hiatt1993-200146314912821.323.278
Jackie Warner1966133553520.414.263
Ray Busse1971-1974168543420.325.205

My favorite player listed above is Ed Gastfield. The youngest player in the 1884 National League, Gastfield backed up Detroit catcher Charlie Bennett. While Bennett was a hitting star (OPS+ of 129 or higher in 7 of 8 seasons in Detroit), Gastfield was hapless at the plate. It's possible he was overmatched because of how young he was, but his awful .073/.095/.085 (6-82, 1 2B, 2 BB, 34 K in 84 PA) batting line in 23 games didn't make it likely he'd get a chance when he was older. Neither did his 20 passed balls and 35 errors in 19 games. Gastfield did suit up one time for Detroit in 1885, going 0-3 with 2 strikeouts. Somehow he made his way to Chicago, appearing in one game and going 0-3 with 1 strikeout and 3 passed balls. That game ended his major league career.

Gastfield's career batting line works out to .068/.089/.080, good for a .169 OPS. I know it's comparing dissimilar things but I think it's interesting his SO% was more than double his OPS. He's one of only four players in all of major league history to have a higher SO% than OPS in 50 or more plate appearances:
  • Ed Gastfield, .411 SO%, .168 OPS in 90 PA
  • Enrique Cruz, .390 SO%, .240 OPS in 77 PA
  • John Roskos, .358 SO%, .294 OPS in 53 PA
  • Frank Cox, .346 SO%, .321 OPS in 104 PA
Fred Wood, the second-youngest player in the 1884 NL and Ed Gastfield's teammate, had a .367 SO% and .188 OPS in 49 plate appearances. Frank Cox also played on the 1884 Detroit Wolverines, helping to explain why they went 28-84, though at 26 he was an old man on the club. If 1884 is currently known as the year Chicago tinkered with their outfield fences and skewed home run totals, it should also be known as the year Detroit had a really, really, really bad offense. It's skewed because of the aforementioned Chicago shenanigans, but the team's OPS+ was 74. The team hit .208/.247/.284. Blech.

What of Cruz and Roskos? Well, Cruz was a rule 5 draft pick who spent all of 2003 in the majors with Milwaukee and resurfaced for one at bat with Cincinnati in 2007. Roskos was a C/1B/OF type who was drafted in the second round by Florida in 1993 and worked his way up the Marlins' minor league system but never really got a shot in the majors.

Sunday, February 1, 2009

More Strikeouts than Hits, Total Bases

Individual batting strikeouts have been recorded all through major league history except for 1897-1909 in the National League, 1901-1912 in the American League, and all except two seasons of the 1880's American Association. Keeping those gaps in mind, there have only been thirty-four non-pitchers who have had over 100 more strikeouts than hits in their playing career.

Non-Pitchers with 100+ More Strikeouts than Hits in Career

NameYears
SOHSO-H
Rob Deer1984-1996
1409853556
Russell Branyan1998-2008
797460337
Adam Dunn2001-2008
1256955301
Gorman Thomas1973-1986
13391051288
Dave Nicholson1960-1967
573301272
Bo Jackson1986-1994
841598243
Mark Bellhorn1997-2007
723484239
Pete Incaviglia1986-1998
12771043234
Jose Hernandez1991-2006
13911166225
Melvin Nieves1992-1998
483284199
Jack Cust2001-2008
420244176
Ron Karkovice1986-1997
749574175
Mickey Tettleton1984-1997
13071132175
Mike Cameron1995-2008
16421474168
Ruben Rivera1995-2003
510343167
Brad Wilkerson2001-2008
947788159
Steve Balboni
1981-1993
856
714
142
Jim Thome
1991-2008
2190
2048
142
Carlos Pena
2001-2008
810
669
141
Tom Egan
1965-1975
336
196
140
Shane Andrews
1995-2002
515
375
140
Jason LaRue
1999-2008
731
592
139
Ray Oyler
1965-1970
359
221
138
Don Lock
1962-1969
776
642
134
Jay Buhner
1987-2001
1406
1273
133
Wily Mo Pena
2002-2008
520
402
118
Jonny Gomes
2003-2008
413
297
116
Craig Wilson
2001-2007
643
527
116
Ryan Howard
2004-2008
692
578
114
Pat Burrell
2000-2008
1273
1166
107
Todd Hundley
1990-2003
988
883
105
Gary Pettis
1982-1992
958
855
103
Dean Palmer
1989-2003
1332
1229
103
Mark Reynolds
2007-2008
333
231
102

In addition to the guys with more strikeouts than hits, there have also been some players with more strikeouts than total bases. It's a list mostly made up of players with short careers and very little power. Ten guys have wound up with 20 more strikeouts than total bases:

Non-Pitchers with 20+ More Strikeouts than Total Bases in Career

NameYears
SOTB
SO-TB
Tom Egan
1965-1975
336
293
43
Ray Oyler
1965-1970
359
317
42
Dave Nicholson
1960-1967
573
540
33
Ed Gastfield
1884-1885
37
7
30
Dave Adlesh
1963-1968
80
51
29
Chris Latham
1997-2003
85
59
26
Rob Nelson
1986-1990
66
43
23
Enrique Cruz
2003-2007
30
7
23
Moe Thacker
1958-1963
81
59
22
Tom Brown
1963
45
24
21


P.S. I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that the idea for this post came from
an article about Mike Cameron posted on BrewCrewBall.com.

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Update: SO > TB, Minimum 200 AB

Today I'm revisiting my first real post on this blog. Back in 2007, my first topic was hitters who wound up with more strikeouts than total bases. To make sure I only got players who spent a significant time in the majors, I set the minimum to qualify for the list at 200 at bats. It turns out three players have officially joined the list since the original post.

NameYearTeamPosABAVGOBPSLGTBSOOPS+
Bill Bergen1911BROC227.132.183.1543542-4
Billy Consolo1954BOSSS242.227.324.277676959
Billy Consolo1959BOS
WSH
SS216.213.331.269585967
Ernie Fazio1963HOU2B228.184.273.281647065
Jerry Kindall1963CLE2B234.205.266.295697158
Dave Nicholson1964CHWLF294.204.329.36510712696
Chris Cannizzaro1965NYMC251.183.270.231586046
Don Zimmer1965WSAC226.199.284.252575955
Ray Oyler1966DETSS210.171.263.252536248
Jerry Zimmerman1967MINC234.167.243.192454926
Ray Oyler1968DETSS215.135.213.186405920
George Scott1968BOS1B350.171.236.237838840
Dick Tracewski1968DETSS212.156.239.236505143
Al Weis1968NYMSS274.172.234.204566332
Darrel Chaney1969CINSS209.191.278.234497542
Ray Oyler1969SEPSS255.165.260.267688049
Jim Mason1975NYYSS223.152.228.211474927
John Hale1978SEARF211.171.283.265566456
Leroy Stanton1978SEALF302.182.265.248758047
Bobby Bonds1980STLLF231.203.305.316737472
Tom Donohue1980CALC218.188.216.243536327
Reggie Jackson1983CALRF397.194.290.34013514074
Gary Pettis1987CALCF394.208.302.25910212453
Jody Davis1989ATLC231.169.246.242566139
John Shelby1989LADCF345.183.237.229799236
Jeff Kunkel1990TEXSS200.170.221.280566640
Rob Deer1991DETRF448.179.314.38617317592
Hensley Meulens1991NYYLF288.222.276.319929765
Gary Pettis1991TEXCF282.216.341.277789175
Andujar Cedeno1992HOUSS220.173.232.277617147
Jack Clark1992BOSDH257.210.350.311808782
Billy Ashley1995LADLF215.237.320.372808890
Benji Gil1995TEXSS415.219.266.34714414760
Kimera Bartee1996DETCF217.253.308.304667757
Archi Cianfrocco1997SDP1B220.245.328.355788085
Mark Johnson1997PIT1B219.215.345.315697873
Ryan McGuire1998MON1B210.186.292.243515546
Greg Vaughn2002TBDLF251.163.286.315798260
Mark Bellhorn2005BOS
NYY
2B300.210.324.35710711281
Mark Bellhorn2006SDP3B253.190.285.344879066
Ryan Langerhans2007ATL
OAK
WSN
OF210.167.272.305648153
Andruw Jones2008LADCF209.158.256.249527634
Tony Pena Jr.2008KCRSS225.169.189.20947497
NameYearTeamPosABAVGOBPSLGTBSOOPS+

I think it's cool that Pena became only the second player with an OPS+ of under 10 to show up. In fact, he is the first player since Bill Bergen a century ago to have an OPS+ that low under in 200+ at bats.

In addition to Langerhans, Jones, and Pena, Jeff Mathis of the Angels deserves a mention. In 2008 he came to bat 283 times and wound up with 90 total bases. He also struck out 90 times. Darrel Chaney in 1973 was the last player to have equal strikeouts and total bases in 200 or more at bats.

I wonder which hitters will linger long enough in the big leagues next year to make the list. I guess we'll see...